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  • People what do you think about the Shiro grow out so far?

    Any thoughts about your koi or anyones elese, or maybe group thoughts regarding the shiro's? Whats up with the top 10? How are they? How do people feel about the growth/changes of the Shiro growout so far?

    The top 10 from the shiro picks.... Can we make a new top 10 for fun, hopefully we can get everyone to post their pics?

    The top 10 way back when......

    1 jeff speck 150
    2 bito t200
    3 cricket 110
    4 minhla 119
    5 ronin-koi 9
    6 woodyaht 60
    7 carolinagirl 41
    8 koicjl 54
    9 koiscales 125
    10 louie 84

    The new top 10?????????
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    Oh yeah. Now you're gonna make us work and pay attention
    Good idea actually. We can all gain a little insight (and maybe eat a little humble pie) at each stage of the growout this way.
    Of course this means I'll have to get 51 bowled up a few days sooner than I had planned... OR MAYBE I'LL JUST MAKE YOU WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEKEND
    Larry Iles
    Oklahoma

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    • #3

      one of my shiros still has most of its sumi submerged and it may still be that way when the contest ends so i probably won't know for a couple of years on that one.....one of my others is looking excellent at least to me....and i have one that has beni coming and going and right now it looks messy........i ended up with two of the little tanchos....they are still hanging on to their beni but it doesn't seem to be high quality so that is also a wait and see.......as far as growth goes mine have only grown a couple of inches....
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      • #4

        my favorites so far are Jonny5
        and Sangrala's Mikado

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        • #5

          yep, yep, and

          Thanks Meg....Johnny 5 looks nice, a little on the samll side but I'm working on that.....

          So far I have noticed many of these koi have lost their sumi.....I have my thoughts on that but I'm going to wait a day or two to see if anyone has any input on that.........?

          Overall I think many of them will still offer many surprises in the next several months. In Michigan I have a small window to fatten my koi up so this is a fun time to feed koi.....By the way does anyone have any advice for a home-made Shiro power diet? OR are you keeping it a secret....lol.

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          • #6

            Some really big suprises so far..........some simple looks have got awesome color and growth...........

            But the true test shall come this winter..........

            I'm really suprised with some of the sumi queens have become muji kings....
            Koi Wrangler
            CKHPA

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            • #7

              Originally posted by mstrseed View Post
              Some really big suprises so far..........some simple looks have got awesome color and growth...........

              But the true test shall come this winter..........

              I'm really suprised with some of the sumi queens have become muji kings....
              big suprises! some heavier with sumi than mine have lost MUCH more than mine did. and although mine grayed out it did not go white like some of those others have. I have been told that my water is good for sumi, hard ???
              so what is playing the bigger role?
              water conditions or genetics?
              got any guesses as why?

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              • #8

                Comparing water and feeding notes along the way may provide some of the answers, but I've got a feeling we'll still be asking some of the same questions 2 years from now. These little buggers are tricksy
                Larry Iles
                Oklahoma

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                • #9

                  I had my fish in the QT until June 6. The QT is inside a shed which does have some light (4 windows, a service door, and a garage door) but not much direct sun. When I took them out the sumi was pretty bright and not much had faded. Now they have been outside in the big pond for 3 weeks I believe the sumi is stating to fading more. I will know more in a few more weeks. So I'm wondering if it's something environmental.
                  Robert

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                  • #10

                    trac is out in Hawaii and his 2 have gotten very deep dark spreading sumi ....interesting, eh?

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                    • #11

                      We all care about the environment....Even republicans now. LOL.

                      Environmental, hmmm? Sumi holds up well with my pond water........Maybe has something to do with the minerals and so on from my water source.......

                      For my pond it's the beni which is a gamble. Some koi hold up well with the deep reds while others, NOT GOOD.....A couple of my domestics hold up far better with beni then there Japanese cousins......Although that being said the black pigment has always been good to my koi friends.....knock on wood....The science of what happens here with all these varied H2o properties is NEAT to discover. Also how the koi genes react to them......It's all in the water...yep, yep.

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                      • #12

                        Well, the original top ten is kinda tough to track in some cases...
                        Bito, Cricket, Ronin-Koi, Koiscales, and Louie are all MIA...
                        Jeff has barely gotten the chance to feed 150 with his cool water, so growth and development are minimal.
                        Minhla has put 3.5" growth on 119, but the sumi is 50% down right now.
                        Woodyaht has gotten good growth out of 60 at +4 3/4", but the sumi is submerged under that nice looking skin.
                        Carolinagirl has 1 1/4" growth on 41, but the skin looks to be going more of a cottony white than I expected.
                        Koicjl has gotten 4 1/2" growth out of 54, but the finish and growth on it isn't keeping up with the other 2 later picks.

                        So far I think we're all a little surprised
                        Larry Iles
                        Oklahoma

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                        • #13

                          Verdict is definitely still out on almost all of them. Larry's fish is sure a good teaser though! Even by next March, there will be a long way to go for many. I hope some of these threads will get updated for years to come.

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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by Jeff Speck View Post
                            Verdict is definitely still out on almost all of them... Even by next March, there will be a long way to go for many. I hope some of these threads will get updated for years to come.
                            Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about...
                            Anybody who thinks the verdict is really in at the end of this one year contest really needs to go look at Omosako's website again. Some of his development photo's covering 3-4 years make a "long term" believer out of you.
                            Larry Iles
                            Oklahoma

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                            • #15

                              My Shiros havent grown much from what I have seen, but I will post pics this weekend.
                              The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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