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    If you were going to a 10,000 gallon pond what would you use for filtration on it?

    Tom

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  • #2

    If you have the means, at least two settling chambers, and a Bakki Shower.
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    • #3

      Prolly same thing that I got now plus Bakki shower.. 3 settlement chambers bead..


      Joe
      It's a living creature (chit happens)

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      • #4

        on our 10,000, we go from (2) 4" bottom drains, to (1) 400 gallon settlement tank, then go to a 1/3 sunami pump, to a Ultima 20,000 them to (2) 350 gallon bio filters with 24" high japanese matting cartridges. them viper 175 Uv, to waterfall. We then have an Artesian 1/3 going to an Ultima 10,00 running our 2 mid and 2 lower jets

        If we had to do it all again ( which Frank will most likely do), we would have 1 more settlement chamber, and more bio filtration. And a 20,000 gallon pond

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        • #5

          Originally posted by Nancy M.
          on our 10,000, we go from (2) 4" bottom drains, to (1) 400 gallon settlement tank, then go to a 1/3 sunami pump, to a Ultima 20,000 them to (2) 350 gallon bio filters with 24" high japanese matting cartridges. them viper 175 Uv, to waterfall. We then have an Artesian 1/3 going to an Ultima 10,00 running our 2 mid and 2 lower jets

          If we had to do it all again ( which Frank will most likely do), we would have 1 more settlement chamber, and more bio filtration. And a 20,000 gallon pond

          Good point Nancy... I would probably add another settlement( gotta love those things..... ) !
          It's a living creature (chit happens)

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          • #6

            Originally posted by Tom C
            If you were going to a 10,000 gallon pond what would you use for filtration on it?

            Tom
            Minimum of three circuits. At least two bottom drains feeding two separate filtration circuits that include mechanical (separation is better than trapping) and bio (aerated moving bed and/or shower/tt). Plus a skimmer circuit with UV and bead for fines filtering.

            -Dan

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            • #7

              How much does a Bakki shower add to a system.

              The reason for the question is I am VERY unhappy with my Nexus units. If I had to do it again I would have never added them. In my eyes they are a waste of good money. I might remove them and redo all the filtration if I have to inorder to get better looking water.

              I was thinking 2 settlement tanks, one to each bottom drain. From that I don't know what I want. I would have a bead filter on each skimmer. Anyone have any suggestions?

              Tom

              Keep it simple, keep it straight Koi-Bito.com

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              • #8

                what is the matter with your nexus then, i have one, and rate it the best filteration on the market.

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                • #9

                  Take it the clarity is the problem with the Nexus.

                  I know someone who has added 26ft of block built filters to solve his clarity issues with the Nexus.

                  Here is what i would do:-

                  10,000 gallons = settlement min of 5% (500g) I will have more than 10% on my current build.

                  Guess i would be looking for around 1000 - 1500g settlement from two bottom drains with a chamber of brushes to trap the last of the large particles then through 2 x 4" pipes to fluidized K1 (keeps that excellant media for parameters from the Nexus) and then masses of Jap Matting if you make the chamber for Jap Matting 500mm wide you can get 4 sections of matting from each sheet you buy.

                  Run a separate skimmer filters would be ideal (here in the UK with an outdoor pond the Bacci Shower absorbs the cool winter air temp so i found other means)

                  But,

                  skimmer basket then a bacci shower would work giving more bio on your skimmers. Could go through some more jap matting to trap fines if you wish.

                  Just my thoughts,
                  Last edited by greg; 07-16-2005, 01:36 PM. Reason: spelling mistakes yet again
                  Greg.

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                  • #10

                    Hey Nancy . . .

                    Originally posted by Nancy M.
                    If we had to do it all again ( which Frank will most likely do), we would have 1 more settlement chamber, and more bio filtration. And a 20,000 gallon pond
                    you guys planning on moving, or what? Thought you were pretty much built out up there? Don
                    Don Chandler
                    Member: AKCA, ZNA, KoiUSA

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                    • #11

                      If i Had the room and the money easy!!!


                      I would have two totally separate systems each fed from a bottom drain to a static K for settlement and then to twp banks of filtration or Showers.

                      Tom what is the problem with the Nexus if its clarity have you guys not got the option of the Eazy conversion yet which uses static K1??????

                      If not are you using the sponge or an Answer??????

                      Gazza
                      Regards

                      Gazza

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                      • #12

                        I have nexus 200 with Answear, then goes through larcon 24" sandfilter but dosent contain sand it has AFM glass, clarity is superb.

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                        • #13

                          Tom:

                          Here's what we're finding about our bakkis...The more volume the clearer the water becomes...

                          Noticed a couple of weeks ago that the water got a little cloudy...suspect that the koi load has increased because most of the Koi (9) have grown 2-4 inches in the last 6 months...

                          Our water is "T'ed" from the pump to the Aquabead you sold me (how ironic), and to a TPR in the pond... reduced the TPR volume, thereby increasing the volume to the Aquabead & Bakki and "Viola" clear water again...

                          May have to add another pump for the TPR only as the koi get to 27", but that won't happen for a couple of days...

                          Next time you have a bunch of money to burn, check with your dad first...
                          Aye Doctor Bob, you reading this????


                          Aloha! Mike T

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                          • #14

                            You got it, it is a clarity issue. I added a bead filter to one of the skimmers hoping it would fix the problem, but it still looks like shit. $7,000 in 2 filter you would think it would work better. I know I have heard from a few people Nexus units don't have a clarity issue, but you more than welcome to see my shit hole. I'm going to add one more bead filter to try to fix the issue with clarity on it. After that I think I will remove them if it's not clear. I will get you guys some pictures tonight to show you what I'm talking about.

                            Tom

                            Mike your right, I suound have talked to you first.

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                            • #15

                              Tom:

                              Since everything's up and running you may just want to add a Bakki Shower from Steve Castel at [email protected]... Two sets of 4 bins will only cost you another $250 delivered...You can fill them with lava cinders for about $50 (2 bags/bin @$3/bag)... If it works you could always change to BacHouse Media later down the line...(Based on SMG's test that showed Lava to be as effective as BacHouse Media, short term)...

                              Aloha! Mike

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