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  • HELP! New Pond Syndrome going crazy!!

    So I've had my pond now for 6.5 weeks (5.5 weeks with Koi in it) and the pond is 900gal. I have 2 filter boxes and a pump at 3200gpm.
    The chemistry is as follows:

    Nitrite: 5ppm
    Ammonia: 2.5ppm
    Ph: 9
    Pond has 7 koi: 1-3", 2-6", 1-8", 3-12" to 14"

    When I first started it up I didn't add live bacteria but purchased some (was in aquarium section at PetSmart) to put in the pond on Friday (9/4). I placed Prime in to protect them against the Nitrite and Ammonia and feed only a little every 2-4 days now since this has been going on. There's tarp over the pond when the temperature gets too hot outside.

    The fish appear normal and mainly come up to eat except the one that likes to stay at the surface. I can't tell if they're slowing down or not. Do I need to do another water change as the levels are so high? Or should I wait until the bacteria grow?

    Please help!
  • #2

    Hi
    What build material is the surface of your pond finished with?

    Is the one fish at the surface just hanging?

    Is it piping, mouth open gulping for air?

    When in doubt do small water changes.

    You can help to burn off chlorine by adding makeup water through a garden sprayer, spraying above the pond and allowing the water to fall back in droplet form.

    Full sun helps to dissipates the chlorine.

    Feed regularly but sparingly. Morning noon and late afternoon with a snack in between.

    Koi do not have stomachs.Therefore small amounts regularly.

    No food left after a few minutes of feeding.

    Cheers

    Garfield

    PS Is this the pond with the bottom gravel filter?

    GET RID OF IT.

    Absolute rubbish

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    • #3

      Originally posted by coolwon View Post
      Hi
      What build material is the surface of your pond finished with?

      Is the one fish at the surface just hanging?

      Is it piping, mouth open gulping for air?

      When in doubt do small water changes.

      You can help to burn off chlorine by adding makeup water through a garden sprayer, spraying above the pond and allowing the water to fall back in droplet form.

      Full sun helps to dissipates the chlorine.

      Feed regularly but sparingly. Morning noon and late afternoon with a snack in between.

      Koi do not have stomachs.Therefore small amounts regularly.

      No food left after a few minutes of feeding.

      Cheers

      Garfield
      I use a pond liner from Firestone, 45mil EPDM.

      The one that is hanging around the surface, Apollo, it's normal for him and he's done that almost since day one, he's not gulping for air.

      The water has been treated for chlorine, nitrite, and ammonia with Prime. I will have to treat again in 24hrs.....

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      • #4

        How many Koi (and size) in 900 gallon pond?

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        • #5

          Originally posted by ricshaw View Post
          How many Koi (and size) in 900 gallon pond?
          7 koi:
          1-3", 2-6", 1-8", 3-12 to 14"

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          • #6

            Originally posted by bnlauren View Post
            7 koi:
            1-3", 2-6", 1-8", 3-12 to 14"
            My advice now would be to get some FritzZyme® TurboStart and ClorAm-X Dry powder (removes ammonia for 72 hours).

            My advice for others is to not start out with such a high fish load when cycling a new pond!
            IMO bnlauren would have been better off to start with only three 12" Koi until the pond biological filter had a chance to cycle. Then add additional fish one or two at a time until the fish load capacity of the biological filtration is met (which may be less then 7 Koi).

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            • #7

              Originally posted by ricshaw View Post
              My advice now would be to get some FritzZyme® TurboStart and ClorAm-X Dry powder (removes ammonia for 72 hours).

              My advice for others is to not start out with such a high fish load when cycling a new pond!
              IMO bnlauren would have been better off to start with only three 12" Koi until the pond biological filter had a chance to cycle. Then add additional fish one or two at a time until the fish load capacity of the biological filtration is met (which may be less then 7 Koi).
              I just added bacteria to the pond Friday and Prime that neutralizes chlorine, ammonia, and nitrite as well.

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              • #8

                Originally posted by bnlauren View Post
                I just added bacteria to the pond Friday and Prime that neutralizes chlorine, ammonia, and nitrite as well.
                Good luck and keep us posted.

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                • #9

                  Originally posted by ricshaw View Post
                  Good luck and keep us posted.
                  So ricshaw, from what I understand you wouldn't do a water change since it's a newer pond? You would just keep adding Prime until bacteria multiplies?

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                  • #10

                    Originally posted by bnlauren View Post
                    So ricshaw, from what I understand you wouldn't do a water change since it's a newer pond? You would just keep adding Prime until bacteria multiplies?
                    No, I would drastically cut back on feeding and do normal water changes WITH a chloramine removing product that also removes ammonia.

                    Ammonia: 2.5ppm bothers me.

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                    • #11

                      Originally posted by ricshaw View Post
                      No, I would drastically cut back on feeding and do normal water changes WITH a chloramine removing product that also removes ammonia.

                      Ammonia: 2.5ppm bothers me.
                      We're only feeding them a small amount every 3 days since this started.

                      What would you consider a normal water change? And how often?

                      Thanks

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                      • #12

                        10% - 20% twice a week.

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                        • #13

                          No gravel filter, I have 2 filter boxes with a filter inside.

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                          • #14

                            Would I need to add more bacteria?

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                            • #15

                              Originally posted by bnlauren View Post
                              Would I need to add more bacteria?
                              i do not think adding more bacteria is necessary. You do need to add some salt of at around 0.3% salinity until such time nitrite levels go down. Can you describe your filter box?

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