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  • yamato-nishiki

    does anybody know any Japanese breeder that produce yamato-nishiki?
  • #2

    Hi SF,

    Oya Yoshokujo (Tetsutaro Kataoka) in Asahi, Saito Yorijo (Hiroei Saito) in Mushigame, Iwaguro Yorijo (Hachiro Iwaguro) in Hiroshima just to name some. Some of the larger-scale breeders may do them as a sideline as well.
    Brian Sousa
    Koi-Bito Forum


    • #3

      Hi Brian,
      Thanks for the info. I find them very attractive. One of my local koi farm
      dealer is going to Japan soon. I'll ask him to get a couple for me.
      Is it because of the complexity of producing this variety which is why
      it is not being widely breed??



      • #4

        Hi Brian,

        I have a question about breeders, too.

        In one of my book, I read about a breeder called Tadao Yoshioka, he lives in Toyoma

        According to this book, he breeds, in my opinion, very interesting varieties.

        For example






        Do you know him and/or this varieties?

        Or anyone else?

        Is it aable to buy koi of this variety?

        Greetz Nico


        • #5

          What is the yamato-nishiki by the way????


          • #6

            Hi Nico,

            Would that book be "Live Jewels - a survey of fancy carp"?

            That book must be 30 years old or more. Some of those varieties seemed to be on-off crosses between to other varieties.

            rgds Bern
            South East Koi Club


            • #7

              Hi Bern,

              No it's out of a German Book called "Nishikigoi-Taikan". It's from the KLAN, the German Koi Club.

              Do anyone else know something about this varieties, especially if it is able to buy them by any breeder.


              A yamato-nishiki is a metallic Sanke.

              Greetz Nico


              • #8

                Hi TK,

                A Yamato-nishiki is koi with colored patterns over a metallic base. Normally sanshoku. Just imagine a sanke with platinum sheen base,dark hi & clear sumi. Very exciting combination!



                • #9

                  In Most higher education marketing classes, the study is to find words other than "new" or " Improved" to put on a product to get consumers to re-look at their purchasing.

                  Koi breeders, are producers and subject to the same marketing principles.
                  Many times in pond grade shipments at the wholesalers level, I'll run across what I call "oddballs" that you can piece together what was tryed
                  as a cross ,to develop something New. It may just click or it may take generations to refine.

                  Next year, my 4th year as a backyard breeder, I will partially venture away from tradtional breeding and venture off on a tangent myself to develop a kawarigoi that i have had in my mind and heart for a long time. It may pan out and it may not. But I am determined to try.

                  People are always looking for something new, cars ,homes ,clothes, koi.
                  It will be fun to see what happens.

                  I ran it by the judges that were here at our show this past weekend and got a positive response, so I'm encouraged. My second place gin rin shiro will be the dad! ( he got beat because he made it into the size by 1/4 of an inch and the winner was at the other end of the scale) We'll talk again next spring!
                  Dick Benbow


                  • #10

                    Hi swordfish ,
                    Thanks for your explanation. Is that called a Grinrin Sanke?


                    • #11

                      Hi Dick,
                      Must be very exciting to create a new variety of koi of your own in your mind. Will fail many times as usual like those Japanese breeders but all it takes is 1 successfull production to bring you to cloud nine.
                      Wish you success in advance.

                      Hi TK,
                      No, metallic is difference from Ginrin sanke. Ginrin scales as you know have a sparkling deposite over all or part of the scales surface.
                      Yamato-nishiki is not only metallic & are restricted to the base color. The Hi & sumi colored pattern are not metallic.
                      I have attached a picture for your reference. Thanks.



                      • #12

                        Thanks for the pics. It helped me understand the term Yamato-nishiki now.


                        • #13

                          HI Nico,

                          I have seen the book, but my lack of another language meant I could only look at the pictures. I saw it on the KLAN stand at Arcen last year.

                          My koi club will be having a stand at Arcen next door to the KLAN one, so I will have another look to see if the pictures are the same as those in Living Jewels.

                          rgds BERN
                          South East Koi Club


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