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    Firstly my sympathy to all the japanese families that have lost loved ones in the quake, their homes and other family members that have been hurt in this ordeal.

    Secondly I hope that many breeders in Niigata are able to pull through, though the loss of ponds parent stocks and top quality kois will surely set the industry back.

    Now here is some good news for Aussie hobbyist anyway, there is hope for us to grow truly jumbo kois (japanese jumbo). On the 8th of Oct a sanke was placed into the tewa koi pond it measured 21cm (when pinned against the container). 2.5 weeks later it had grown 3cm to 24cm and put on a lot of girth.

    First pic taken on the 8th of oct



    this is on the 26 Oct



    This ginrin kohaku was 22cm on the 8th Oct


    This is on the 26th Oct





    Picture of them together


    another pic
    There is no such thing as a zero maintenance pond but the closer you get the more time to enjoy your koi. Soft low TDS water is the perfect pond water.
    http://www.tewakoi.com
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    heres the other pics







    There is no such thing as a zero maintenance pond but the closer you get the more time to enjoy your koi. Soft low TDS water is the perfect pond water.
    http://www.tewakoi.com

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    • #3

      What are the bloodlines of this Gosanke? What size is the pond? Nice Sanke and Kohaku!!!
      The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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      • #4

        Tewa,

        Difficult times at the moment, but some nice growth on your Koi. Presume they are bred in Australia?
        Regards, Bob
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        • #5

          hi aquitori

          unfortunately i can't tell you the exact bloodline, no one in Australia can tell you the exact bloodline of their kois because we stop importing about thirty years ago. Some do claim that they have brought kois in to the country in the recent years and claim to be off dainichi and matsunosuke lines. How true it is no one knows.

          These two kois were actually bred by backyard hobbyist. A lot of kois that are sold to keen hobbyist are from backyard breeders/hobbyist (big credit goes to all of them for the love of their hobby they go to extremes to try and improve their own collection. Unfortunately we don't have a scale of operation like momotaro and the kois will never be as good as theirs. I am astounded at the growth rate as it is only the start of the growing season where we have water temperatures constantly above 20 degrees.


          Dear Dick

          Yes these are very troubled times and I hope the koi industry will bounce back from it. And yes these kois were bred in Australia by backyard hobbyist.
          There is no such thing as a zero maintenance pond but the closer you get the more time to enjoy your koi. Soft low TDS water is the perfect pond water.
          http://www.tewakoi.com

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          • #6

            hi aquitori

            Forgot to give you a description of the pond

            1.55m deep
            30,000L volume
            turnover 100% per hour
            100kg of bacteria house
            pond TDS 65ppm
            freshwater added a day 500L (56ppm)
            Outdoor in full sun, pumped from bottom drain with no settlement chamber
            There is no such thing as a zero maintenance pond but the closer you get the more time to enjoy your koi. Soft low TDS water is the perfect pond water.
            http://www.tewakoi.com

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            • #7

              I understand that you can't import nishikigoi in to the country. My thought is why doesn't anyone import the eggs and milt instead of the whole koi. Well just something to think about.
              The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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              • #8

                Regulations, I am sure, would also cover the import of eggs, UK regs do, not for koi but for general movement of other aquatic life.

                Mark
                Mark Gardner

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                • #9

                  Kinda of strange thought. Koi must be very very expensive there.
                  The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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                  • #10

                    hey aquitori
                    the government doesn't allow eggs and milt as well. trust me if we could do it legally we would

                    kois are actually quite cheap in comparison to the rest of the world as the markeet is not that big for eg the best kois whether jumbo or small would only fetch between 1000 to 4000 AUD. 95% of kois are sold at less than 1000 dollars
                    There is no such thing as a zero maintenance pond but the closer you get the more time to enjoy your koi. Soft low TDS water is the perfect pond water.
                    http://www.tewakoi.com

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                    • #11

                      But having to breed these koi yourself has got to raise the bar on learning. I hadn't realized it had been as long as it had without any new bloodlines being injected. I think these two koi are really nice given everything they have to deal with! My hats off to ther breeder!
                      Dick Benbow

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                      • #12

                        Thanks dick I will pass on the message to the breeder i am sure they will be happy to hear that what we are breeding out of our on backyards is not too far back from japan.

                        This year I am concentrating on the bakki showers and soft water and achieving growth rates never seen in Australia (in a way I have achieved it at growing past 1cm a week but there will still be scepticals saying lets see how they are a full growing season later). The sanke i posted came from sydney and had grown in a 90 tonne pond, it was far from being the largest there. Sydney has pretty low TDS tap water at around 120ppm but most ponds are around 320ppm.

                        here in WA many of our koi hobbyist had always thought that sydney hobbyist had better fish and now I know that is due to the softer water they have in sydney.
                        There is no such thing as a zero maintenance pond but the closer you get the more time to enjoy your koi. Soft low TDS water is the perfect pond water.
                        http://www.tewakoi.com

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                        • #13

                          Originally posted by tewa
                          hey aquitori
                          the government doesn't allow eggs and milt as well. trust me if we could do it legally we would

                          kois are actually quite cheap in comparison to the rest of the world as the markeet is not that big for eg the best kois whether jumbo or small would only fetch between 1000 to 4000 AUD. 95% of kois are sold at less than 1000 dollars
                          Cool, we have some true Koi Kichi hobbyist out there..The tosai are really nice!!! Better than most koi that come from Japan and labeled High Class. Well, if I had time on my hands I think I would try my luck at breeding. By the way what is the highest recorded price paid for a Nishikigoi out there?
                          The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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                          • #14

                            This thread brings up an interesting question. What is the average price of koi? Sort of hard to fathom because the range of prices is so high. I've seen them retail for $1.49 US but have no idea where the maximum is, or even what you guys with nice fish are accustomed to paying. If a batch had:

                            1 fish worth $5000
                            10 fish worth $500
                            100 fish worth $50 and
                            1000 fish worth $5

                            then the average would be only $18

                            steve hopkins

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