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  • Gonjiro

    Does anybody hear know the breeder Gonjiro?Heard that he produced some excellent sanke.And the parent koi is a massive sanke of 113cm of Matsunosuke lineage.
  • #2

    Kodama lists Genjiro on his site. Same? Maybe.

    Genjiro Koi Farm
    Mickey the windowman, the world is a very big place.

    Aquitori says Keokoi says "even sun shines on dogs ass..." so I say... Buy Ugly Early.

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    • #3

      Here are some of Gonjiro's kois being offered during Narita's Spring auction last month.All of them are his Jumbo tosais.......
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      • #4

        Nice looking fish. I have the impression that some of the "second tier" names among Japanese breeders place some of their very best fish with Narita for auction to get the benefit of the Narita marketing and build their reputation. Not sure how accurate that impression is.

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        • #5

          Very nice, indeed -- but rather finished for tosai don't you think?

          Looks like many of them are show ready.
          Don Chandler
          Member: AKCA, ZNA, KoiUSA

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          • #6

            Koimann

            I was also under the impression that Gonjiro uses "pure" Sensuke bloodline for his kohaku. This was info I read on Kodama's site a couple years ago. He also breeds some very nice Kujaku but his fame is in kohaku and sanke.

            MikeM

            You're correct. 2nd tier breeders do send their very best to Narita in hopes of making the first tier. I think Gonjiro is already making headway to that ladder rung. He just needs someone to display his wares at the All Japan level shows and win something like Kokugyo to really jump up in the marketplace. He does have some REALLY NICE STOCKS.

            Mike

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            • #7

              Genjiro Yorijo
              Takashi Kobayashi
              Sanke(strong Sadazo blood).
              In partnership with Oomo, Nogami, Tanaka.
              House destroyed in '04 earthquake.
              Mike Pfeffer
              Northern Midwest ZNA show
              June 19 - 20, 2010
              Season's Garden Nursery
              Fishers, IN

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              • #8

                For those that don't know......
                Sensuke ( pronounced Sens-kay ) is a bloodline of kohaku that was known for it's large size, and solid stomach area as opposed to soft heavy female looking types from other bloodlines. It was criticised initially because the beni was very orange. Most modern day breeders have worked on it to maintain the body but redden the color. A prime example would be Sakai of hiroshima.There are a few hard core types that keep the bloodline untainted.
                An example would be Iizuka (Ee-zoo-kaa ).

                Matsunosuke ( Mots-sun-nos-kay) a bloodline mostly associated with Sanke.
                Also known for it's large size and now with magoi bloodline, even larger. Best associated with toshio sakai-Isawa, who has now developed Maruzome (rounded scale red and black ) to his gosanke lines.

                So when you look at this breeder, you can tell from the genetics he uses that his koi have the ability to grow big. Many modern day breeders use these bloodline to improve their own, including Momotaro and Sakai-hiroshima
                Dick Benbow

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                • #9

                  Genjiro at Chiba Perf is acctually very famous but they are not only breeder but also dealer who mainly sale Sakai(H) fish around his area.

                  The left upper corner Sanke 44cm tosai on the left side picture is granddaughter of the famous Akamuji 113cm owned by Higashi-san, armature breeder.
                  Showas on the right side picture is all Dainichi blood line....they are all serious tategoi....

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                  • #10

                    Originally posted by Super Kindai View Post
                    Genjiro at Chiba Perf is acctually very famous but they are not only breeder but also dealer who mainly sale Sakai(H) fish around his area.

                    The left upper corner Sanke 44cm tosai on the left side picture is granddaughter of the famous Akamuji 113cm owned by Higashi-san, armature breeder.
                    Showas on the right side picture is all Dainichi blood line....they are all serious tategoi....
                    Thanks for all the info.No wonder that his tosais are all very big...Anyone here owns 1 of this breeder's fish?

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                    • #11

                      Here is my Gonjiro sanke thats just been harvested.She ake nissai and 62cm.
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                      • #12

                        I very much like your Sanke. She appears to have a wonderfully strong body. It may be preferable to have another Hi step, but I do not think you will mind when she is 30"+. ...Are you bringing her home or leaving another year?

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                        • #13

                          Originally posted by MikeM View Post
                          I very much like your Sanke. She appears to have a wonderfully strong body. It may be preferable to have another Hi step, but I do not think you will mind when she is 30"+. ...Are you bringing her home or leaving another year?
                          Thank you Mike...Agreed with you,that she have a strong body,maybe Matsunosuke bloodline??Still thinking if i should keep her another year.

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                          • #14

                            There is some Matsunosuke in most of the better Sanke. The body on yours seems more heavily influenced. Photos can be so difficult to read. ... The skin on her head seems very nice in the photo. I am sure she would do best in a mudpond. It can be difficult to have a fish and not be present to see it develop. I recently passed on keeping one in the mud just because I wanted I wanted to raise it myself.

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                            • #15

                              Originally posted by MikeM View Post
                              There is some Matsunosuke in most of the better Sanke. The body on yours seems more heavily influenced. Photos can be so difficult to read. ... The skin on her head seems very nice in the photo. I am sure she would do best in a mudpond. It can be difficult to have a fish and not be present to see it develop. I recently passed on keeping one in the mud just because I wanted I wanted to raise it myself.
                              I also have the same reason as you too.Its a really hard decision to make.

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