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  • #16

    From where did you get the tofu?
    I have ssen it in our local supermarket, but it is expensiv, because it is "biofood".

    Salt, yes an often discussed topic, but there isn't a trend or an majority on any side. Some koi keepers swear on it, others doesn't.

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    • #17

      I've been using Hikari since 1988, at first I used to experiment with other foods and have tried most in that time. But about two years ago I decided to stop messing around and stick with Hikari.

      Since the introduction of the Saki brands I have fed a mixture of Saki and Wheatgerm throughout the winter, introducing Excel in larger proportions from the spring over summer and decreasing by the autumn.

      My last recorded incident of Koi pox was in 1996.
      I began heating the pond in 1999.

      rgds BERN
      South East Koi Club

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      • #18

        I know Bil in the UK uses summer squash which more or less the same as pumpkin.

        I don't know about the salt levels in tofu but I have heard this is a normal practice in the far east.
        B.Scott
        Semper in excreta, sumus solum profundum variat

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        • #19

          Just wondering...

          In the wild, what do carp eat? Is there any merit in providing a full range of foods for Koi? Or are they like show dogs who do best when kept to a strict diet. From reading some of the posts, its sounds like they will eat anything you put in the pond...watch out for your fingers and toes....hahaha.

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          • #20

            The trouble is that wildcarp and Nishikigoi are two very different animals even though they are the same family. The best comparison is the diet of koi in mud ponds.
            Now listening to Brett you will hear that his fish, though feed pellets, extract alot of food from the pond itself. Crayfish, mayflies, beatles, plants, weeds and insect larve all form a major part of the fish's diet in the summer months while the fish are in the ponds. Mudpond live is, in general, a time of heavy and maximum growth in koi. But diet, while important, isn't the only factor.
            B.Scott
            Semper in excreta, sumus solum profundum variat

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            • #21

              Yes, Nico tofu is easily available in all our local supermarket. It is cheap here but most importantly very nutritious even for human.

              B.Scott, various manufacturer for tofu have their calcium content range from 75mg to 89mg per 100g. Protein around 15mg per 100g etc...It is a very nutritious food recommended by our Ministry of health too.

              Akai-San, koi will eat almost anything that are throw into our pond. I heard of some koi owner(wouldn't call them hobbyist) even give their fish dog food,cat food & fried chicken!!! When you have very high quality koi you wouldn't want to try that. Live food are like fresh food to human but are not so easily available & live food also might carry some parasite,bacteria which we don't know. Occassionally I give my koi sterilize frozen blood worm that I defrozed.

              SF

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              • #22

                Just wondering?

                B.Scott,

                You mention that you make your own special koi paste for feeding. When introducing into pond, does it create clouds of fines when the koi hit it and really dig into the wet/liquified paste? It just sounds messy...unless your koi are natural born pond vacuum cleaners.

                When feeding fruits and vegetables, is there a specific size to chop up the produce? Cubes, quarters, halves, whole fruits? What about when it time to clean your icebox out and find soft produce that is not exactly pleasant to eat for us humans (example: soft bananas, bruised fruit, soggy grapes or oranges, aged lettuce & cabbage (not rotten) etc.

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                • #23

                  For paste food, I make it into little balls. A great way to do this is to use a "Bollie Maker" that carp fisherman use to make their bait with. Fast and easy to clean in will make dozens on balls in seconds.
                  No trouble with fines in the water except when one of the orphened sunfish attack a paste ball. (Yes I know, these aren't koi but I have had the little twerps for near 15 years. They are the oldest fish in the pond) But they don't eat much.
                  The only trouble is a bit of an oil slick if you over do the codliver oil. The skimmer takes car of that.

                  With fruits and veggie, it depends on what it is. If possible I like to let them tear it apart themselves. (Butter) Lettucce goes in whole, oranges and grapefruit in halves and (slightly cooked) squash in cubes. I never use old or soggy produce. Especially important that leafy veggies are fresh. If I wouldn't eat it myself, it doesn't go in the pond. Avoid using cast off produce.

                  B.Scott
                  Semper in excreta, sumus solum profundum variat

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                  • #24

                    I have enjoyed reading this thread and the dozens of varying opinions.

                    coupla things to keep in mind as each hobbyist sorts things out for themselves.
                    How well is your koi digesting what your feeding them. The harder it is for them, the more it makes your filter work. A sign of good food is small amounts of waste meaning it was easy to digest.

                    like most things in life, variety is good. No one even ourselves enjoys eating the same thing for breakfast every day the rest of their lives.
                    Dick Benbow

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                    • #25

                      Just like family...

                      Wow B. Scott, If I were a koi, I would definitely want to be under your care. Home made meals, fresh fruits and vegetables, a clean home. I bet your koi get evening cocktails and after dinner desert too...that would be the life. lol. I guess like any household pet, they would be a member of the family...why not include koi (my guess is each have their own likes, dislikes and personalities as well).

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                      • #26

                        One great koi joys I had last year was mixing up Izeki paste by the bowl and hand feeding the fish. Wish I could get Izeki paste this year.

                        I'd hold a nice big chunk in my closed fish and hold my hand about a foot under the water. The fish would see what I had and ATTACK! The attack is why I used a fist; they would try to take off with a finger if one was sticking out.

                        I could also make sure everybody got their fair share -- if a couple fish were hogging the food I could just move my hand over to some fish that were left out. And after a bowl most of the fish were happily munching their chunk of food so some of the more shy fish could then be tossed a couple of chunks.

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                        • #27

                          B. Scott,

                          Did the horns fall off or did you have to cut them off?

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                          • #28

                            They are sitting on the computer next to me waiting for carnival to come upon us in a couple of months.
                            Semper in excreta, sumus solum profundum variat

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                            • #29

                              The horns grew in Oct and now they disappeared completely but added some flare to the board.

                              I was only feeding my koi in the semiwild pond once a day in summer as there was lots of plant growth they were eating. A commercial fish culturist was telling me that they use up a lot of energy at that time in grazing and catching food and that I shoulod have given them more feedings at that time to stimulate growth. I will try that next summer.
                              The perfect koi is always one purchase or spawning away!

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                              • #30

                                Sanke 56

                                What in tarnation is that avitar a picture of?
                                Semper in excreta, sumus solum profundum variat

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