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  • I've Been Noticing?

    I've been noticing that there is a HUGE following in this hobby from the UK. Is there any particular reason for the interest to be so prevalent in the UK. It just seems as though the US following is significantly less. Just my perception...just curious.
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    Maybe they take hobby alittle more seriously? Most of the hobbyist I know are pretty Koi-Kichi...In my opinion I haven't really seen alot of young hobbyist(28-36 age range). Nothing really to drive the hobby forward...I attended a Club meeting and it was all politics...Not what you want to show a young hobbyist...Most of the hobbyist were older than me by 20 to 30 years. Honestly didn't care for it. I mean I have been in this hobby almost 10 years and only seen maybe 6 guys in my age range join the hobby...pretty sad....That's why I started my own local club..."KOI-UNIT"
    The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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    • #3

      I think we have regular hobbyists younger than me in CKC. Of course they don't show fish yet; still just enjoying the pleasure of having regular fish.

      But, yeah, most folks into koi are 40+ it seems.

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      • #4

        Shucks, I just missed your cut (37) I guess I'm part of the older crowd then...hahaha.

        Do you have annual shows in your area(s). In Hawaii, I don't think the club holds any shows anymore. I hear that they have exhibitions. I don't know what that entails. I myself went to my first meeting in December. A lot of really nice people, very, very helpful and encouraging. A lot of older couples but some youngsters too. Looks like a real good mix...I just fit somewhere in the middle as a newbie. I hope I can make more meetings and get to know more members. Fun group and I starting to seek the Koi Kichi's.

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        • #5

          Lots of interest in Holland as well but little of the quality ones finds in the UK.
          Semper in excreta, sumus solum profundum variat

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          • #6

            The Horimotos from Hawaii are a nice couple, i meet them in Japan for the first time. Kenneth and Shirleen are good people...I respect them and they really seem to watch out for the younger guys in the hobby...Well getting back to the European hobby vs. the U.S. hobby...you can't really compare because the level is there...The time and effort to put on a big show every year is commended. If you could get a show to run even 4 yrs straight here in the states is a miracle.....




            Originally posted by Akai-San
            Shucks, I just missed your cut (37) I guess I'm part of the older crowd then...hahaha.

            Do you have annual shows in your area(s). In Hawaii, I don't think the club holds any shows anymore. I hear that they have exhibitions. I don't know what that entails. I myself went to my first meeting in December. A lot of really nice people, very, very helpful and encouraging. A lot of older couples but some youngsters too. Looks like a real good mix...I just fit somewhere in the middle as a newbie. I hope I can make more meetings and get to know more members. Fun group and I starting to seek the Koi Kichi's.
            The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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            • #7

              The UK as a country has been at this hobby longer than in the US. The basic hobbyist as well as the advanced is well beyond the average counterpart in the US.

              That's alright gives us something to shoot for. Besides the first person to win a major koi show in japan was an american from hawaii!

              Most of the clubs I'm familar with are filled with older aged individuals. In japan they think it's marvelous to have a few women and familes interested like thier overseas counterparts in Europe, Australia, South Africa and America. It's mainly a man's show over in japan.
              Dick Benbow

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              • #8

                Where's Mike the Retired Guy? Oh Mikeeeeee....

                Mike is trying to drum up interest in a show in Hawaii. If the last club meeting is any indication, its going to be a difficult sell. "How many would be interested in having a show" - everyone raises their hands. "How many would be interested in showing their fish" - nobody raises their hand. Everyone knows that Kenneth would take all the prizes anyway. I hope Mike pulls it off though because I'm really curious to see what sort of fish are out there.

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                • #9

                  Well I'm from the UK and yes there are a lot of people interested in Koi, many with huge amounts of knowledge. But there are still many people still in their first or second years in the hobby. The UK is far smaller than the US, perhaps the size of one of your states, but in the area where I live, population circa 300,000, I only know 3 other serious Koi hobbist's. I'm sure there are others, but our paths do not cross.

                  Within an hours drive of my house, there are 4 very serious dealers and a few others operating smaller units.

                  The Internet has still opened up the hobby in the UK massively, with KoiChat being at the fore front on a lot of activities.
                  Regards, Bob
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                  • #10

                    Akai-San: The koikeeping hobby got its roots in Britain in the 1960s and '70s, with a strong group of enthusiastic people who ultimately created the British Koi Keepers Society as a national umbrella organization with regional groups (sections) throughout the country somewhat like the ZNA model in Japan, but different. Looking thru the old BKKS newsletters, you would recognize all the personalities that seem to be in every koi club. The squabbling was uniquely British, and at the same time knowledge of koikeeping was both imported and developed. Certainly Japan has led the way in breeding and appreciation, but I see the British as having laid the path for success without mud ponds. Meanwhile, in the U.S., the hobby was largely limited to portions of California until the 1980s and most of the country was inundated with mass-produced un-culled domestic junk from the infancy of the hobby, thanks to a few Florida fish farms and the likes of Herbert Axelrod. AKCA developed in the U.S. as a loose affiliation and has had its own challenges in promoting the hobby. Today, the Brits continue to lead in new product development/adaptation, but the U.S., Taiwan, Holland, South Africa, Austrailia, Malaysia, Thailand all have important segments of the hobby and make contributions to the progress of the hobby. With the internet, the globalization of the hobby is upon us. We can expect it to continue to spread. And, it will reach new heights as long as the market exists to keep the koi farmers busy refining the fish.

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                    • #11

                      Mike your history lesson was very well done!
                      Dick Benbow

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                      • #12

                        Originally posted by aquitori
                        The Horimotos from Hawaii are a nice couple, i meet them in Japan for the first time. Kenneth and Shirleen are good people...I respect them and they really seem to watch out for the younger guys in the hobby...Well getting back to the European hobby vs. the U.S. hobby...you can't really compare because the level is there...The time and effort to put on a big show every year is commended. If you could get a show to run even 4 yrs straight here in the states is a miracle.....
                        Yes indeed, I got a chance to chat with the Horimotos at the club Christmas Party in December. It was really nice to have finally met them and talk about getting myself started. They even invited me to take a look at their pond set-ups when I was ready to get started with my first pond. Great people. Everyone also told me that the Horimoto's had some of the best koi in Hawaii right now...WOW! I have been visiting other members ponds and have been surprised by the differing level of interest in the hobby. Looking forward to our next club meeting to make more friends...

                        In regards to arranging shows, I can understand the huge amount of coordination needed for assembling a show. We used to help with local dog shows and it is A LOT of work. And the dogs just require a ring to run around, no water qualilty involved. Accomodations for Judges, Support Staff, Admin., Awards, etc. etc. I can see it as a HUGE undertaking.

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                        • #13

                          Hi Guys,

                          well i am from the UK and have only been in the hobby for a few years,so yes done all the first part of the mistakes with the pond and then building another one and so on but stll heaps and heaps to lern.Its nice to see that you say we are more into the hobby in the UK and giving yourselves something to aim at but looking at some of the posts by you guys i would think again.
                          Its internet site like these that get us all talking and swapping ideas that helps us all progress in this fantastic hobby of 'keeping water' i do not post that often as i like reading all the subjects that most of the time are just beyond me i have to read them a few times before i know what the subject is about

                          Anyway thats enough from me and long live the koi keepers around the world.

                          Gazza
                          Regards

                          Gazza

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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by Akai-San
                            Shucks, I just missed your cut (37) I guess I'm part of the older crowd then...hahaha.

                            Do you have annual shows in your area(s). In Hawaii, I don't think the club holds any shows anymore. I hear that they have exhibitions. I don't know what that entails. I myself went to my first meeting in December. A lot of really nice people, very, very helpful and encouraging. A lot of older couples but some youngsters too. Looks like a real good mix...I just fit somewhere in the middle as a newbie. I hope I can make more meetings and get to know more members. Fun group and I starting to seek the Koi Kichi's.
                            Akai, There are actually a lot of people in your age range. I have been to AKCA in Hawaii and have met many of Club members you rage younger and older. Hawaii goldfish & koi club is the oldest in the country so you have a lot of hobbyists in your area. No shows in Hawaii but a lot fo Serious Hobbyists with nice ponds. Like Aquatori said that Couple and many others are in your area. To hold a Local Show would be great especially since you have so many hobbyists. I would come down of course to support your show.

                            Aquatori you in? Keo
                            It's a living creature (chit happens)

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                            • #15

                              I am down, shot it would be nice to meet new people in the hobby...well especially in Hawaii.

                              AQuitori..


                              Originally posted by keokoi
                              Akai, There are actually a lot of people in your age range. I have been to AKCA in Hawaii and have met many of Club members you rage younger and older. Hawaii goldfish & koi club is the oldest in the country so you have a lot of hobbyists in your area. No shows in Hawaii but a lot fo Serious Hobbyists with nice ponds. Like Aquatori said that Couple and many others are in your area. To hold a Local Show would be great especially since you have so many hobbyists. I would come down of course to support your show.

                              Aquatori you in? Keo
                              The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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