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  • Judge these Kujaku....

    I know when judging Hikari Moyo the luster of the metallic is key...But since the pics sucs everyone do there best.
    The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.
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    Well, since you say the shine does not come across well, should I fudge my views??

    I'll go: A, B and C.

    A because the best shine in the group, deep colors, sharp pattern edges, decent conformation; but I do not like the pectorals in relation to the body and the dark nostrils are distracting.

    B is my favorite, but unfortunately not much lustre in the photo. She has fine body shape, good proportions, the best silver-white and the cleanest head. I'd put her first by a long distance if only the photo did not come across as very poor on shine.

    Chas much to say for itself, but in comparison the pattern is not sharp, the shine is low, the face is not clean .... so, I'd put B ahead even if B does not seem to gleam quite as much.

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    • #3

      A,C,B

      Bi's pattern needs more sumi to come in and is not as finished as the others. I like the body on C, but for today I think A is right for the show.

      I have seen this color variety in a beautiful orange and fantastic red and both have their appeal in a good fish. But a good red one is very haunting....


      your right even as tosai you want to find one IN THE SUNLIGHT while selecting
      that has that deep metalic sheen. I have seen on many a day in the NW koi hunters looking at koi inside the building. you need to see these beauties out in the natural light!
      Dick Benbow

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      • #4

        Ok here is what I think.
        A has good pattern and deep hi and you can see the dark scale better than the rest.
        B I like this koi because of body but thats it.
        C, na not a good koi
        If I was purchaseing the koi it would be A for me. In the long run I think A will bet the rest.

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        • #5

          My favorite Kujaku of all times. I've seen it twice at the All Japan Show.


          Maurice.
          http://www.koi-uk.co.uk

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          • #6

            Sorry aquitori, but I just decided that I don't like any of your three fish any more ;>)

            -steve hopkins

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            • #7

              ahhh at us again with such nice fish.

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              • #8

                Originally posted by bekko
                Sorry aquitori, but I just decided that I don't like any of your three fish any more ;>)

                -steve hopkins
                Well with Hikari Moyo it's hard, the only way to look at these fish is under natural sunlight...So if I were to see judges judging this fish in doors I would have to say something...Well anyways, since the pics suc, we could only judge by way of pattern and reticulation of the scales...
                The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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                • #9

                  A or B with c 3rd

                  At first glance A appears to have acceptable sheen, strong color and matsuba development. However on second glance my impression is the body maybe a little short for the size of it’s head. Pecs maybe a little small also. Or it may just be the photo angle?



                  B seems to have better conformation and the best sheen. But undeveloped matsuba and weaker hi.



                  C seems to have OK conformation but the least sheen.



                  I think a toss up between A & B from what I can tell in photo’s.
                  C is 3rd.
                  Disclosure:These opinions are based on my experience and conversations with persons I consider accomplished koi keepers and do not reflect the viewpoint of any organization.

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                  • #10

                    Originally posted by RayJordan
                    At first glance A appears to have acceptable sheen, strong color and matsuba development. However on second glance my impression is the body maybe a little short for the size of it’s head. Pecs maybe a little small also. Or it may just be the photo angle?



                    B seems to have better conformation and the best sheen. But undeveloped matsuba and weaker hi.



                    C seems to have OK conformation but the least sheen.



                    I think a toss up between A & B from what I can tell in photo’s.
                    C is 3rd.

                    Ray your turning out to be a good judge...
                    The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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                    • #11

                      Aquitori did you go GQ on us? After seeing your avatar it looks like you did.

                      Tom

                      Keep it simple, keep it straight Koi-Bito.com

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                      • #12

                        Of the three A would be the only one I would consider...trouble with this variety is even with excellent sheen and matsuba...the heads usually go dingy grey or darker in places...now the all japan one...that's a Kujaku!

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                        • #13

                          Judging by the pictures presented to us, I think C has the overall package. It clearly has the best body conformation. Koi C also has just a clear a head as the others. If you have a closer look at the blue background that koi C was pictured in a darker atmosphere creating a darker skin tone and harder to see the luster. Koi C seems to be the largest of three as well. The pattern in koi C is also good with pattern stopping before the tail joint. Then, I would follow with koi B being again better conformation than koi A with also a clear head and nice pattern. Koi A being the smallest at this point which has a lot of growing to do before it can compete against the other two. Also the hi on the tail joint is a little distracting.

                          As for what I would like to see in my pond on the other hand is yet another story!

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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by Tom C
                            Aquitori did you go GQ on us? After seeing your avatar it looks like you did.

                            Tom
                            GQ? Never...Man I was wearing shorts and some flip-flops when you met me...
                            The world sleeps as the chance to learn something new passes.

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