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  • Koromo

    So who else has a passion for koromo?



    Anybody have experience breeding them?



    Any pics of prize fish you care to share?
  • #2

    One again posted on another board that we picked up at Isawa Sakai



    Best regards,

    Bob Winkler

    My opinions are my best interpretation of my experiences. They are not set in stone as I intend to always be a student of life. And Koi.

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    • #3

      Bob - stunning!

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      • #4

        Nice one Bob

        Very nice looking!



        So the darkened area is NOT the scale, but the dermix(sp?)
        Bancherd

        Thai Koi-Keepers' Group

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        • #5

          Thank you for the kind comments.... Dermis = skin,



          but no.. I think the black/sumi is the edge of the scales, and not the skin, though there may be some mixture.. I will have to look closer when she comes out of quarantine....
          Best regards,

          Bob Winkler

          My opinions are my best interpretation of my experiences. They are not set in stone as I intend to always be a student of life. And Koi.

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          • #6

            Ai vs Sumi

            Bob: She looks even better on this board! When you grow tired of her, there's a home in sunny Florida awaiting her.



            Query: In this pic it does appear to be dark sumi on the edge of each scale, rather than light ai. I guess it is a matter of degree, but could she be considered an extraordinarily fine Sumi Goromo? [I know "sumi goromo" gets looked down on because so often the sumi is washed over the scale, rather than defining the edge. I do not mean to be critical of her at all. To contrary, she is a knock-out no matter the label.] The depth of the sumi creates a reticulated effect that puts her on a different level.

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            • #7

              Hi Mike,



              You may be right about her classification... I actually did not get a long look at her, like one would if she were in my pond already. She is being held at Quality Koi for me unitl a few more weeks... when my own quarantine pond is clear from the other ones our group brought in..



              Thnx again for the kind comments.. We think she is great.



              Best regards,



              Bob Winkler
              Best regards,

              Bob Winkler

              My opinions are my best interpretation of my experiences. They are not set in stone as I intend to always be a student of life. And Koi.

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              • #8

                Bob, although not of the same quality as yours, I think this INC Sumi Goshiki is related to your Goromo.





                Maurice.
                http://www.koi-uk.co.uk

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                • #9

                  Goshiki Goromo

                  Maurice: There was an article a couple of years ago (by Nicole Lembke, I think??) in KoiUSA suggesting that Goshiki and Goromo should not be in the same class for judging because each has been refined over recent years to be too different from one another. Neat photo. Is it Goromo with smudged shiro? Or, Goshiki with dirty hi? Nahhh ... that would be looking for demerits. Have to look at the positives: A Goshiki with nice ai skin, and Goromo with reticulated hi. Best of both, all in one.



                  I'm curious what some of the judges would say about this one in the GG class.

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                  • #10

                    Mike, in my mind, what you see is a trate of Sakai Isawa goshiki. Many with dirty grey shiro and no reticulation. Beni with reticulation.



                    Not so many high class ones available to the likes of me (got no money)



                    But this is his number one.



                    Maurice.
                    http://www.koi-uk.co.uk

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                    • #11

                      Here's the first of my pictorial offerings.



                      a classic Ai Goromo, bought in the early 90's (circa 93 or 94).



                      Breeder unknown.







                      I've never seen light blue robing like it again.



                      rgds BERN
                      South East Koi Club

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                      • #12

                        ....and my second is a Goshiki







                        Bred by Maruju. Photo taken when Nissai.



                        Robing on the hi and shiroji is crisp.

                        The downside of this koi is the red irisis on the eyes.



                        rgds Bern
                        South East Koi Club

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                        • #13

                          Another

                          Sorry for the sorry photo. It had just stormed, at that time

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                          • #14

                            In the UK Goshiki never used to be benched as Koromo but in Kawarimono. Now the BKKS classifications place them together.

                            I think i'm right in saying ZNA show rules place Goshiki in own class. :?: :?: :?:

                            Pic below of a Momotaro Goshiki purchased on our Nov visit, it's still there at the moment due to some damage to the tail. Will see it again in a month or 2.



                            This is the female Momotaro Goshiki Parent, previously ZNA All Japan 75bu prize winner.

                            Mark Gardner

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                            • #15

                              as an aside, i've just noticed that the kohaku on the right is the female parent of a bunch of tosai kohaku we bought, never noticed it before.
                              Mark Gardner

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