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  • In prize of Bakki Showers.

    As many of you will know, I have recently finished the first 4 concrete ponds at the farm. They run with Bakki Showers direct from the bottom drains and static Kaldnes from the skimmer for fines removal.



    In the shortest space of time these ponds have come through with no hiccups what so ever. Each pond contains a ridiculous number of koi; they are thriving and climbing on top of each other at every slight of a human. They only dream of pellets and they are getting plenty.




    http://www.koi-uk.co.uk
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    yes, i saw your site just the other day and checked out the pics of the ponds and the concrete slabs etc. pretty full on shed that one.seems your temps get cold over there maurice, i noticed your insulation.. hell youve done some work. looking forward to seeing some great fish comeing form your operation.
    an old farm i worked at had a plastic roof and now its full of holes from hail.
    these where the size between gold balls and tennis balls though.

    i guess youd be heating the tanks throught the winter, obviously have power to run pump for bakki. let us know when the fiish start to get too big and they get slower in growth or water goes down..would like to know how many kilos these things run at a quick growth rate.
    do you currently practise the daily exchange like they do in japan?.
    is it the plan to grow your fish to a big size in these tanks or use the mud as well?

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    • #3

      glad your keeping us up with you! whew, you've been busy. if I didn't know better I'd say you never took a vacation to australia but stayed at home and worked1 (lol)



      curious to see some numbers on the water your charges are growing in PH,KH,Gh Etc



      p.s. keep up the good work!
      Dick Benbow

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      • #4

        Maurice your Projext is Jumbo. You definately are workign hard. We want more pics please....

        Joe
        It's a living creature (chit happens)

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        • #5

          Healthy looking, and hungry looking koi. What are their average size? All the best to your great effort!

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          • #6

            These koi are just general grade, waiting for sale to garden centers. This pond contains 4" koi, there's a couple thousand in there.

            ranskye, during the summer the concrete ponds will hold koi ready for sale. During winter they will have my tategoi, held in warm water and grown over the cooler months. So some times they may hold 2,000 standard grade koi or 50 of my prized.
            Nothing older than tosai in these concrete pond. For the winter the standard to good quality will stay in the mud ponds.
            Older koi will be phase two of my program. I'm guna be old before I finish here, it's all planned, but I've only got two hands and only a few pounds left!
            Maurice.
            http://www.koi-uk.co.uk

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            • #7

              Maurice,

              What a sight that must be walking in to there ever morning and hearing and seeing all those koi flooding toward you.

              I bet you cant wait to get to work.

              Cheers
              Regards

              Gazza

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              • #8

                hard work for one man thats for sure, and let alone putting up all that maccano, think of how it might keep your heart tickin all that much longer hey maurice!

                definatley looks like itll get cold there, ive never had a snow. i put my hands in water of 3 degrees C and im outa there in a matter of minutes..i know that ive measured temps in hothouses compared to ponds outside..
                i remember a time when our winter was leaving and spring was on its way and the temp was 15 degrees C in the outside ponds and 18 degrees centrigrade under the covers..it sure makes a fifference in growth rate and period you can grow.

                i hope to see some real great koi from your place one day..only then maurice you can go get old.

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                • #9

                  how to?

                  Dear Maurice,

                  does that mean they run on separate pumps? would the pump direct from the bottom drain need to be able to handle solids?

                  Thomas

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                  • #10

                    Hi Maurice,

                    Sounds great!


                    You may have posted this elsewhere, but do you mind informing mewhat flow rate through the BS, what size BS/BH media for how big of a holding pond, and did you construct your own static Kaldness chamber? Thnx!
                    Best regards,

                    Bob Winkler

                    My opinions are my best interpretation of my experiences. They are not set in stone as I intend to always be a student of life. And Koi.

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                    • #11

                      Hi Bob,


                      I am sure Maurice will not mind me posting a link to his website:

                      http://www.koi-uk.co.uk/Koi%20UK%20LTD.htm


                      Guys if you want to see some of his progress have a look at his site and i have also posted another link to another forum where he has just posted some of his 'Home Grown' Koi Take a look and prepare for a surprise.

                      They are Great!!!!!

                      http://www.madaboutkoi.com/cgi-bin/d...rum=DCForumID9

                      http://www.madaboutkoi.com/cgi-bin/d...rum=DCForumID9
                      Regards

                      Gazza

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                      • #12

                        Thomas, yes the main water is drawn direct from the bottom drain and pumped over the shower. The water from the skimmer has it’s own dry mounted Aquamax 6,000ltr, this is also returned over the shower. I use Sequence pumps on these ponds without leaf baskets, they handle the fish waste fine, but for outdoor situations a leaf basket would be best fitted before the pump.



                        Bob, Standard showers available in the UK are 4 trays at 1mtr long, they hold 60/70kilo of media, I think Carl uses the same design.

                        Turnover/flow rate should be large as possible, up to 300%. Although they will work as low as 150%; when I say they will work, I mean work in consuming the waste. Much depends on your stocking rate/feed rate. If this is high, you may find the water gets a little heavy in fine particles, if this is the case then you have two means of keeping the water clear; either more showers sets need fitting or some form of fines filtration is necessary. With more showers and higher turnover water with fines will be cleared; it’s just down to the method you wish to use.



                        Standard practice is one shower set per 2,000 gallons, with a low to average stock level, this will cope great. For biological nitrification they are first class, they are well oversized, perhaps up to 5,000 gallons worth. But remember these are also being used a sewerage farm and because of this the points I mention above are important.



                        I use my own design fines filtration with static Kaldnes, this can be seen, as Gazza points out (thanks Gazza) on my website. Ignore the first photos in the article, as they are of my prototypes, the design now used is shown in the bottom photos.

                        These give water like glass.



                        Hope I’ve covered every thing,

                        Maurice.
                        http://www.koi-uk.co.uk

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                        • #13

                          Thnx Maurice.... that is helpful... While I have the "double wide" BS already in place for our planned ~35,000 gallon pond and running on the Qpond with all the koi, hard to immediately see how to "fit" more into a gravity fed situation, but am sure it will all work out.


                          Congrats again on a job well done.
                          Best regards,

                          Bob Winkler

                          My opinions are my best interpretation of my experiences. They are not set in stone as I intend to always be a student of life. And Koi.

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                          • #14

                            Dear Maurice,

                            thanks for taking time out from your busy schedule to answer our questions! If I visit the UK one day, I will definitely drop by to have a look at your setup in the flesh!!!

                            BTW do you use the Momotaro media in your showers?

                            Thomas

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                            • #15

                              Thomas, there is no other media for the showers, it's go to be the real thing. Expensive, but it works.
                              Maurice.
                              http://www.koi-uk.co.uk

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