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  • New Bakki Shower

    One day I typed in koi bito and it popped up a bunch of images, the first was a 55 gallon drum bakki shower. Since I have a limitless supply of 55 gallon plastic drums I decided to build one. We did change the design layout to much except insted of using 2" we went with 1.5". We ended up using 40 feet of it along with 8 elbows and 20 "t" fittings. Then I decided to get fancy. I wanted to use another drum as a settling chamber before the pump. It sort of worked, but eventually failed. the next thing I added was a faom scraper. This works remarkably well.

    Enjoy the photos.
    Amanda Bulls-Stephens
    Creator of "The Tail End"
    Central California Koi Society
  • #2

    Here are the pictures

    Here are her pictures. The first two are barrel halves. The next one is lava rock in baskets. The next one is the tower. The next one is the magical foam. The last one is the crushed 55 gallon drum.
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    Sean Stephens

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    • #3

      This is AWESOME!!!! I definitely have to build me one of these! It's getting to cold for one now in my part of the world. I still don't even have my big pond finished. This looks fairly easy and cheap to build!!!! I LOVEEEEEEE the idea that you incorporated a phoam phraxnor into it! this whole set-up has got to be GREAT for making your water quality that much greater!
      is all you used lava rock?
      Thank You so much for the pictures!
      Happy Koi'ing!

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      • #4

        Great use of the half barrels and small green trays.

        In this photo, the lava rock looks bigger than the lava rock I see at Home depot or Lowes.
        Is it ?
        I like it. I would love to find some bigger lava rock. Mine is full of tiny pieces that get compacted and clog too easy.
        How big are the openings in those green baskets and are they the one's from the dollar store ?

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        • #5

          We got 2 sizes of lavarock at Home Depot 2 bags of each size If I could redo that I would go with the larger stuff and forget about the smaller. If I recall correctly one of the bags didn't exactly say lava rock, but I wasn't looking at the bag I was looking at the porduct. I filled the crates about two inches. the smaller stuff went on the bottom the larger stuff ontop.

          I understand featherrock works real well if you can find it.

          It takes 8 dollartree mini crates for each drum half, I am not sure how big the openings are 1-2 inch maybe? They seemed sturdier than the other basket option.

          Since this post we have reconfigured the settling tank barrel from sitting on top of the shelf to sitting closer to the ground. This has helped with the suction problem. The 55 gallon drum probably is not ideal for a true settling tank. However, the bakki shower works better if there is something to catch all the waste and junk material before it reaches the filter. The drawing shows how we set up the chamber. We used uniseals for the pipes. We wanted an complete enclosed system so we only cut holes for the pipes and left the top with its bung plugs alone.

          We used 1, 3 inch Uniseal for the bottom tray of the filter and 3, 1 1/2 inch Uniseals for the settling tank. I love uniseals they are cheap and flexible.
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          Amanda Bulls-Stephens
          Creator of "The Tail End"
          Central California Koi Society

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          • #6

            Originally posted by rifraf View Post
            This is AWESOME!!!! I definitely have to build me one of these! It's getting to cold for one now in my part of the world. I still don't even have my big pond finished. This looks fairly easy and cheap to build!!!! I LOVEEEEEEE the idea that you incorporated a phoam phraxnor into it! this whole set-up has got to be GREAT for making your water quality that much greater!
            is all you used lava rock?
            Thank You so much for the pictures!
            Happy Koi'ing!
            I am sure you are aware that Bakki showers chill the water. If you decide to go with one of these you can allways wrap it or build a house for it.
            Amanda Bulls-Stephens
            Creator of "The Tail End"
            Central California Koi Society

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            • #7

              Originally posted by bighatbulls View Post
              We got 2 sizes of lavarock at Home Depot 2 bags of each size If I could redo that I would go with the larger stuff and forget about the smaller. If I recall correctly one of the bags didn't exactly say lava rock, but I wasn't looking at the bag I was looking at the porduct. I filled the crates about two inches. the smaller stuff went on the bottom the larger stuff ontop.

              I understand featherrock works real well if you can find it.

              It takes 8 dollartree mini crates for each drum half, I am not sure how big the openings are 1-2 inch maybe? They seemed sturdier than the other basket option.

              Since this post we have reconfigured the settling tank barrel from sitting on top of the shelf to sitting closer to the ground. This has helped with the suction problem. The 55 gallon drum probably is not ideal for a true settling tank. However, the bakki shower works better if there is something to catch all the waste and junk material before it reaches the filter. The drawing shows how we set up the chamber. We used uniseals for the pipes. We wanted an complete enclosed system so we only cut holes for the pipes and left the top with its bung plugs alone.

              We used 1, 3 inch Uniseal for the bottom tray of the filter and 3, 1 1/2 inch Uniseals for the settling tank. I love uniseals they are cheap and flexible.
              Thank You, Home Depot and Lowes in My neck of the woods only have the small Lava rock

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              • #8

                Try Walmart
                Amanda Bulls-Stephens
                Creator of "The Tail End"
                Central California Koi Society

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                • #9

                  Ok the filter has been running smooth for about a week since we replaced the settling tank. We have noticed significant drops in DOC's, and fines, and I couldn't be happier with our water clarity. The colors of my koi realy seem to pop right now. We do have a thin layer of foam in the pond around the edges, but it doesn't stink, and its white. It seems that the combo of filter and foam scraper has taken care of a pesky health issue with my bekko. It didn't get shown this year sue two two unsightly pink "blisters" on its tail. I was told several things that might have caused the blisters, damage, parasites, carp pox, and aeromonas. I think it was aeromonas, I am keeping my fingers crossed that the new system will keep that better in check.

                  Will post pictures soon.

                  if I would change anythign about the new filter, I would (and will) have a from pond shut off valve before the settling tank for maintance.
                  Amanda Bulls-Stephens
                  Creator of "The Tail End"
                  Central California Koi Society

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                  • #10

                    I am glad to hear that the new filter design is working well for you. Thank you for posting the picutres.

                    Originally posted by bighatbulls View Post
                    We have noticed significant drops in DOC's, and fines, and I couldn't be happier with our water clarity......We do have a thin layer of foam in the pond around the edges, but it doesn't stink, and its white.
                    A couple of these observations are puzzling to me.....how are you noticing the significant drop in DOCs? From what I have read, the foam is likely an indicator of some DOCs -- many shower users skim the foam off of the shower outlet before the water is returned to the pond....?

                    I have heard of folks getting by with no other "fines" control than the shower itself, but I have never understood how a shower can get rid of fines...?

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                    • #11

                      You raised some good questions Paul, I will try to answer them as best as possible.

                      I have a very thin line of white foam around the pond edges. This foam doesn't go all the way around the pond but maybe a third of it. The foam also doesn't stink. Before adding the BS, I had ugly green brown foam that stank that just kept getting worse even with water changes.

                      For fines control I am hoping my settling chamber is catching most of the heavy stuff. I keep asking Sean if he would look in there and see how its working he promised to do so at the next water change. I plan on adding some matala to the top 2 trays of the shower in the near future. I have heard that many bakki shower owners have done this and have been happy with the results.

                      I will try to get some more pictures tomorrow and share with you.
                      Amanda Bulls-Stephens
                      Creator of "The Tail End"
                      Central California Koi Society

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                      • #12

                        video [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAk159tDAM[/YT]
                        Amanda Bulls-Stephens
                        Creator of "The Tail End"
                        Central California Koi Society

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                        • #13

                          Very nice video, Amanda! It explains much -- you are really harvesting some foam off of that shower, aren't you?

                          Thanks very much for posting that video, I really enjoyed it.

                          Paul

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                          • #14

                            I hope it answered your questions. I think the thin line of white foam in the video is air bubbles pushed out of the way by the return water crashing into the pond. However I am not sure. There is also less of this type foam currently in the pond today than yesterday. Maybe someone can advise me onthis?

                            A.
                            Amanda Bulls-Stephens
                            Creator of "The Tail End"
                            Central California Koi Society

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                            • #15

                              I tried to post pictures of what is in the settling tank. but they failed, I will get Sean on it later today.
                              Amanda Bulls-Stephens
                              Creator of "The Tail End"
                              Central California Koi Society

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