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  • chang26k
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    Jacketsodaly, welcome.

    I also live in the ATL metro. You started the same time I did, just different year with same or similar setup. Do yourself a favor and dump the Lowes preform pond. I did that and moved to swimming pools. Best way to learn is to lose/spend money. If you want to go cheap, a intex swimming pool works way better then that preform pond and it's cheaper. I think $75 bucks gets you 700 gallon already. I want to upgrade to a 1500 or 2000+ pool but don't think I will as I think I'm now ready for a real pond. But my real pond will be under 2000 gallon. This is the best place for koi, have fun.

    I think the best thing I did was to not buy lots of pond equipments. I only have a 45lmp air pump and a 5000gph water pump. Everything else such as filter and ponds are cheap or free stuff. I want to wait until i'm ready.

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  • jacketsodaly
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    I'm near Atlanta and am very interested in your koi breeding plan. I hope it turns out well. In the future, I also hope to breed. Therefore, if you want any help, I'm willing to assist so I may learn as well. I would also like to breed showa(f) with kohaku(m), sanke(m) and showa(m). My hobby in koi just started last Christmas and I do not yet have a real pond but a preform plastic pond from Lowes. A mistake but I'm learning.

    I agree with you, thanks!




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  • poisonXvenom
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    Thanks for the invite, I'll go whenever I have to chance to!

    I have some videos on my youtube page. I'll add some new updates, I just finished putting a fry pond in the waterfall section....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEtEmf68vRc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4w4AgMDdtk

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  • ormabe
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    atlanta

    Hi PoisonX

    Thanks so much for the reply.
    Well, it is true that babies in a small aquarium tank (75 gallons) get bigger and bigger. Some are more than an inch long in just less than a month.
    I have also added eggs to my square pond (400 gallons), because the spawning media are too big for my tank. I wish I had more than one small tank to raise babies. Here is the link for the pictures,
    http://ormabe.smugmug.com/Other/Babies-2010/12467683_QNDze#893179375_aTPg2


    maller for the frys are in the square pond and the others you can see that I took the photos on the aquarium tank. The smaller fry pictures (less than half an inch) are from the square pond and are the same age as those in the aquarium tank.
    The others pictures are form the big pond and are a year old. You can see them next to the big koi in the main pond. I kept those in a cage (main pond) form last spring until a month ago when I released them in the main pond together with the big ones. So far so good.
    I raised the Daphnia in two plastic containers (sixty gallons each).
    I really do not pay much effort on that, once in a while I add yeast and some green water to feed the Daphnia culture. I know that they could die, but also I know that they lay eggs there and the culture will come back. In that way it is better for me to raise the Daphnia in the sixty gallon container than something smaller.
    I am in Midtown, near Georgia Tech, so let me know if you come to the area and you visit my ponds.
    Here are the ponds since those were built, pond still the same, landscape has changed.
    http://ormabe.smugmug.com/Other/Projects/193726_VEkWz
    Do you have pics of yours. or pond?
    Orlando

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  • poisonXvenom
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    Johns Creek here

    Oh, its good to hear from another koi keeper in atlanta, even better a breeder~~
    I live in Johns Creek near Duluth... Wow you sound like you've been breeding for quite a while... This was my first year and I had a very very high hatch rate, literally thousands and thousands, but my first mistake was keeping it in too big of a pond, 500 gallon from the start. I learned that its easier to maintain 50 gallon tubs for the ease of feeding and filtration... I think that the reason why your aquarium fry are bigger is because of the easier access to food. You can't deny the fact that fish grow much better in bigger space!
    Hopefully, I will do much better next year... Some things you can't learn from reading, you just gotta experience it. =/ I'm even building an extension to my waterfall for a separate fry compartment to my main pond.

    Also, how do you keep your daphnia cultures? I have a couple buckets for my culture, but they crash within a week or so, maybe because of the hot temperature in the sunlight?


    Anyways....
    Any picture of the fry, pond? You've peaked my curiosity =D

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  • ormabe
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    Midtown Atlanta here

    It was nice to find other people interested in breeding the wet pets.

    I have been doing that for last few years , some times with better results than others.

    This year, the majority of the females realeased the eggs. I have about 400 hundred babies, almost a month old. Iam waiting for a female Ochiba that still full of eggs but nothing hapen yet.

    I am raising the babies in a small pond about 400 gallons and also in a quarium tank 75 gallons. The aquarium babies are three times bigger than the square pond.

    it is my frys square pond. http://ormabe.smugmug.com/Aquariums/Babies/P1000754/877978636_twV4M-L.jpg

    A month before release the eggs I started raising daphnia and then I added the eggs.


    The last year I had successfull raisng about 400 babies, a week ago I went into my the big ponds ( both made 8,000 gallons) and I released 100 of those babies in my main pond ( I kept them for a year in in a cage in the big pond) and the rest of those babies I took to a public Inman park pond . I released there 50 big green kois ( 5 yeasr old) and about 300 babies,( One year old).
    I am located near Ga tech area here
    is tha a sponge filter poisonx? It seems working great!
    Orlando

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  • poisonXvenom
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    Hah, sorry but I'm not giving away any... I myself lost a lot of the fry..... The only survivng are probably 1/10 of my batch I started with... I've learned a lot through this process and will do much better in next year's spawn.... Maybe then, I can give you some =P or maybe a trade? haha we'll see.

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  • chang26k
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    You got a lot of frys. I put a 3" koi in my egg tub and it ate all of them but 15 or so. So now I have about 15 fry left from my spawn. If you ever want to get rid of your fry, let me know and I'll take all of them. Only 4 or 6 of mine are as big as yours, the rest are still small.
    Thanks

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  • poisonXvenom
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    Update on my fry~

    Here's an update on my fry.... It's been about 5 weeks and I am feeding them daphnia and brine shrimp. =D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0n0sR9qxE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p_RcFvMLAA

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  • PapaBear
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    What is most important is to maintain a stable ph condition, dechlorinate each time (as you are doing) and test the water daily to be certain your water changes are sufficient. Stability and quality are the most important elements of water health and they determine Koi health more than any other thing you do. Small ponds (and 300 gallons is tiny small) are very sensitive and always require more testing and water changes than larger ones.

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  • chang26k
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    In the tub, I have an airlift connected with a sponge and a lot of plants. Three plants to be exact. 2 floaters, 1 iris and some duckweed. I see a few fry in the 300g pond and all the eggs seemed to hatch. I think the frys are being eaten but that's fine. I do a 10% water change daily to all my koi pond/tub and use it to water my garden. I also keep a tub to age the water 24hrs before adding to the pond/tub. I use tap water, so I add dechlorine. What chemical should I be using for the moment? Should I still be adding baking soda to keep the water ph high.

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  • PapaBear
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    What do you have in the "green water" other than fry and water? Airstones? A filter of some sort? They'll need water changes, filtration that won't suck the fry in, and plenty of air. Otherwise you'll have a high mortality rate very soon.

    Any eggs left in the 300 gallon pond have probably been eaten by now. Do not feed the Koi in there for a few more days, do extra water changes, do extra water tests, and keep a close eye on them to make sure no health issues arise. 300 gallons of water is a very tiny space for even a few small Koi and it takes very little for the water to become toxic, especially after a spawn.

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  • chang26k
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    Hi,
    How's it going? My fry are now swimming and eating. How’s yours doing? I now see the different colors of the small fry and now I appreciate the Japanese breeders more and more. They are so small the Japanese-Breeders actually pick them out. My water is green and I cannot see them in the tub, but I some in my glass jar and I see them in there. Would the fry in my main pond be eaten by the big koi or would they survive? I see some in there but my green water is not helping. But I know that green water is good for fry so I’m not going to do a major water change and keep it green for 2 or 3 more weeks.
    KC

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  • poisonXvenom
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    Originally posted by chang26k View Post
    My koi just did an unplan breeding. The female is a magoi and the fathers are yellow/orange. I moved some eggs to a small tub and I just left the rest in my 300 gallon pond. The question is, what do I need to do to take care of the water quality? I got a airlift pump in the tub and a sub-pump in the 300 g with air. Do you think the eggs will hatch in the pond? What about the ones in the tub? What do I need to do now?
    Thanks
    Usually you would need at least a sponge filter, if not little water changes will suffice... You can tell that clear eggs will hatch and white ones will not. They will hat hatch within 3-5 days dependng on the temperature. After they hatch, they will feed on their yolk sack for bout a day or two. When they are free swimming, you can feed them. First feed them hard boiled egg( only the yolk) after a week star feeding then live brine shrimp or daphnia.

    My koi spawned and thr fry are a week old. I think some died cuz of inadeuate feeding =/
    good luck ~~

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  • chang26k
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    My koi just did an unplan breeding. The female is a magoi and the fathers are yellow/orange. I moved some eggs to a small tub and I just left the rest in my 300 gallon pond. The question is, what do I need to do to take care of the water quality? I got a airlift pump in the tub and a sub-pump in the 300 g with air. Do you think the eggs will hatch in the pond? What about the ones in the tub? What do I need to do now?
    Thanks

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