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    Daihonmei aquitori's Avatar
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    The term Bonsai Koi....

    Is there a term such as Bonsai Koi in the nishikigoi vocab? Please define.

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    Happy year of the Monkey,everyone!
    The term bonsai koi is heard occassionally these days. It was prevelant
    more in Japan 10-15 years ago where economics and space along with an effort by producers to expand thier market, encouraged people to keep koi small. it was accomplished by fairly crowded conditions minimal feeding and the use of males who would finish quicker. water quality did have to be at it's best.
    Those who developed the art were able to keep koi with almost no growth what so ever. I can't remember a whole lot of details, I recall the
    temp band was quite controlled and narrow. the fun for those participating was to knock off baby grand and repeat the next year with ther same koi!
    It was a trend, like having giant koi now. like all things, the pendulum swings wide each way while the majority centers in the middle!
    Are you thinking of monkeying around with art ths year?

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    Are Bonsai koi cheaper? I heard that these fish are smaller but usually finished...So, are they usually sold cheaper by the breeder? Also should a dealer disclose weather the koi is bonsai or not to a hobbyist?

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    Thankfully it wasn't a term or indeed a practise that got to the UK.

    The only reference I ever came across was in the book 'Koi Varieties' by Axelrod.

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    JR posted some information regarding the intentionally dwarfed koi some time back & I read an article about them in an old magazine from the late '80s. There is a specific word used to indicate dwarfed koi, but I cannot recall it at the moment.

    When they were a fad, they were less expensive than other similarly aged koi, but sometimes a bit more expensive than similarly sized non-dwarfed koi. I have the impression that they were comparatively cheap as koi go. It also seemed to me from photos that the ones dwarfed were not ones that had much hope of ever being a great fish. Bright color seems to have been the focus. Many were intended to be kept in aquaria, so color on the flanks was important.

    These fish were often the runts from the tosai harvested in October. They were then kept in confined space for a period of up to 3 years with only enough food to survive. The idea was that after having been so deprived for so long, the fish simply could not grow, but their aquarium-keeper owners were encouraged to feed sparingly and only a couple of times per week. After all, you did not want to take the chance that the fish might still have an inate destiny to grow. Of course, some of the fish sold as dwarves were simply small fish that grew rapidly when taken home ... at least by aquarium standards.

    The thing to remember about the dwarfed koi is that they were not bred to produce dwarf koi, as has been done to produce "toy" dogs. They were starved creatures denied the ability to be what they were genetically intended to become. It was only the continual, daily denial of the koi's requirements that created a dwarf. ... Rather like child abuse.

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    aquitori,
    The Kohaku that I posted in the New Member topic is a bonsai koi.
    TK
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    How big is the Kohaku now?

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    aquitori ,
    I bought this Kohaku 4years ago when she was 14'. She is now only 17in.
    TK
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    17"? Who's the breeder? When you bought the koi did you have showing in mind.

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    aquitori,
    The breeder is Maruyama. This koi was a winner of GC at Water Garden World Young Koi Show.
    TK
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