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    thank-you Mike, that's the kind of information I find helpful not only to understand a specific show but to realize what is happening in our hobby all over the states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tosai_Sunny View Post
    Good job, Tim! Congrats!
    Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dick benbow View Post
    thank-you Mike, that's the kind of information I find helpful not only to understand a specific show but to realize what is happening in our hobby all over the states.

    I have been meaning to get you the koi breakdown, Dick, Patti has it on the computer....and I did have it on my judging forms, but have yet to find them since returning....

    But I will post them to this thread once we get all our ducks in a row!

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    One thing I will say Dick, with at least the shows that I see each year, roughly 7-10...is that the numbers between the sizes are becoming more equal....years ago used to see the vast majority of the koi in size 1 and/or 2....with the numbers decreasing as the size of the koi increases, however that trend seems to have stopped somewhat...

    In any event, the numbers from CFKS break down as follows:

    Size 1 39 koi
    Size 2 23 koi
    Size 3 35 koi
    Size 4 26 koi
    Size 5 27 koi
    Size 6 26 koi
    Size 7 20 koi

    Grand total 196

    Other breakdown includes

    Kohaku - 50
    Sanke - 26
    Showa - 20
    Shiro Utsuri (only) - 8
    Koromo/Goshiki (sakura) - 10
    Kawarigoi (sakura) - 15
    GinRin A (sakura) - 12
    GinRin B (sakura) - 8
    Tancho - (tsabuki) - 5
    Hikarimoyo - (tsabuki) - 9
    Hikarimuji - (botan) - 3
    Hikariutsuri - (tsabuki) - 2
    Doitsu (tsabuki) - 6
    Asagi/Shusui (botan) - 6
    Hi/Ki Utsuri (botan) - 2
    Bekko (botan) - 2
    Longfin - 10

    6 judges + 1 interpreter
    5 hours
    Split up for sizes 1-4, switched teams 4-6, together for 7 and all majors, teams also came together after 1-2 and 3-4....

    baby from 1-2, young from 3-4, adult 5

    and following true to ZNA form (my first time doing it this way) we picked the GC and reserve first.

    Also my first time judging with Japanese judges. I have worked in various shows with Japanese judges, but this being the first opportunity to actually be judging with them.

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    and Thank-you Dale, really helpful
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    Neat data, Dale. It really was fairly well distributed among sizes.

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    CFKS Major Award Winners

    Grand Champion owed by Jason Yates


    Reserve Champion owed by Mike McMahon


    Sakura Champion owned by Thotakura Venkat


    Tsubaki Champion owned by Sonja and Ken Kahkola


    Botan Champion owned by Shirley Stone


    Mature Champion owned by Henry Culpepper


    Adult Champion owned by Tim Nye


    Young Champion owned by Tim Nye


    Baby Champion owned by Shirley Stone
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    I have a question on the awrds of-Tsubaki,sakura,botan
    I know when picking grand champion B it was like picking GC over all with move ups and such.
    so how is this picked right after getting the GC?

    I see size 4 was a bekko and size 7 was a shiro.
    do size awards come before the 3 awards or after?
    meaning is it a higher award to be best in size or one of the 3 champions?
    I am guessing it is better to be one of the 3 champions since listed on first page of results???
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    CFKS used to have a Grand Champion B award which was the best non-gosanke at the show. We decided to change it to be similar to the Shinkokai All Japan show (Sakura, Tsubaki and Botan). That allows more of the non-gosanke to be recognized. We broke down the non-gosanke awards similar to Shinkokai:

    Sakura - GinRin A, GinRin B, Goshiki/Goromo, Kawarigoi
    Tsubaki - Tancho, Hikari Moyo, Hikari Utsuri, Doitsu
    Botan - Asagi/Shusui, Hikari Muji, Hi/Ki Utsuri, Bekko

    The non-gosanke awards are decided after the Best in Variety winners are chosen. Each of the Best in Variety from each non-gosanke group are compared to determine the non-gosanke awards. In the case where a non-gosanke was chosen for a Best in Size award, it is also considered. For example, this year the Best in Size 4 was a Bekko so when deciding the Botan award, the best Asagi/Shusui, best Hikari Muji, best Hi/Ki Utsuri, best Bekko and the Best in Size 4 Bekko were compared. The Ki Utsuri was chosen for the Botan award.
    Henry

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryC View Post
    CFKS used to have a Grand Champion B award which was the best non-gosanke at the show. We decided to change it to be similar to the Shinkokai All Japan show (Sakura, Tsubaki and Botan). That allows more of the non-gosanke to be recognized. We broke down the non-gosanke awards similar to Shinkokai:

    Sakura - GinRin A, GinRin B, Goshiki/Goromo, Kawarigoi
    Tsubaki - Tancho, Hikari Moyo, Hikari Utsuri, Doitsu
    Botan - Asagi/Shusui, Hikari Muji, Hi/Ki Utsuri, Bekko

    The non-gosanke awards are decided after the Best in Variety winners are chosen. Each of the Best in Variety from each non-gosanke group are compared to determine the non-gosanke awards. In the case where a non-gosanke was chosen for a Best in Size award, it is also considered. For example, this year the Best in Size 4 was a Bekko so when deciding the Botan award, the best Asagi/Shusui, best Hikari Muji, best Hi/Ki Utsuri, best Bekko and the Best in Size 4 Bekko were compared. The Ki Utsuri was chosen for the Botan award.
    sorry I have more questions.reason being is to fully understand as my wife does a lot of the judgeing recording.so just want to make sure of situations if they come up.
    taking the size 4 bekko(insert any other variety) if it won young champion. is this a better award then one of the Sakura,Ttsubaki,Botan champions or it could move up.
    even wondering about adult and mature champions if they move up.

    reason asking is keeping track for move ups.
    take the size 4 bekko example.if it won YC. then was moved up .now need to find a different YC and then if size 4 whatever wins now need a another size 4 winner.
    so guess what I am wondering if certain varieties win ,almost need to keep track of 3rd place size 4 koi as it could move up to best size 4.
    just want to make sure I am following right and to help recording.(she uses a lot of little stars and marks to help keep track and help locate koi when move ups start happening)
    Paul Korf

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    Louisville Koi club
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