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    Nisai
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    Sakai Showa for Comment

    Attached pls find sakai showa picture for your comments. Nisai 40cm female.
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    expensive fish, and worth it...a pleasure to watch for years to come

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    Which Sakai?

    I am guessing Hiroshima..... ?

    Joe
    It's a living creature (chit happens)

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    Ooooo. Tategoi.

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    Keo, its sakai hiroshima. Not an auction fish, just some leftover from last batch.

    Come on Mike, you could do better than just ooo ....

    Fyi, no deal is made yet

    A bit small for a nisai, how abt the size of the head ?

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    O.K., O.K. .... The Beni is very good. The Sumi will be lacquer. The Shiro is clean and bright. The shoulder height is just what you want. The shoulder and head width are "acceptable". The angle of the photo causes me concern about the thickness of the tail in the peduncle. It looks alright, but not super. Whether this is an accurate impression, I do not know. Could be the photo. I am thinking a fish that grows nicely, but not 32". The Hi has a softness to it without being very orange in the photo. I expect it has a hint of being a bit "rosy" in person. If so, I expect it will become brilliant as the fish matures. (I had a male with that sort of "Showa Hi" at one time. He was wonderful on the color chart, if not in any other way.) The pattern is major guess work. Right now there is too much Sumi on the rear. But, if it comes in solid on the "black side" and does not spill over too much onto the "red side", you could have a balance of heavy tones on the rear. Then need Sumi to arise in the mid-section to give better distribution throughout and not have a bare midriff look to her when the classic Sumi patterning on the head comes up. The Motoguro is going to be good, helping to balance the weight of the rear pattern.

    I said "tategoi" not just because the future of this fish will be better than the present, in my opinion, but also because if the possibilities come together, she may be very special, even if only 28". ...Those are my guesses. You understand, of course, that the breeder knows his fish better than anyone, and he thought this one did not have enough potential to deserve a third summer in the mud. Then, again, Sakai Hiroshima has culls other breeders would slave a year to raise.

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    I think it's a wonderful koi. Not too many koi get a second look from me anymore
    if they're not blue, but this one does. tell me your pond PH is 7.4/7.6 but no higher!

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    Can I be honest?

    Maurice.

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    WE WOULD EXPECT THAT FROM MOST PEOPLE BUT ESPECIALLY yOU!

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    Difficult to tell a lot about shape and conformation from that photo, for me anyway. Pattern wise I have to say it does nothing for me personally. If I had to have a guess at what the future might hold, I would say its only going to get worse when the sumi comes out properly, no balance front to rear at all. The kohaku pattern underneath is very messy too as is the head, I'd discribe it as 'flowery' at best.

    Obviously this is just my opinion and I am probably as far removed from an 'expert' as you will find on these things.

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